Comments on: Thoughts on Running from a Long Run http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/2009/09/04/thoughts-on-running-from-a-long-run/ Endurance and triathlon training through the eyes of full-time athlete and coach Russell Cox Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:56:48 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: russ http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/2009/09/04/thoughts-on-running-from-a-long-run/comment-page-1/#comment-567 russ Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:06:37 +0000 http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/?p=964#comment-567 Steven - I was thinking about it on my long run. If you're up to it I'd be game to give that session a go out in Busselton. Should even be able to do it all outdoors rather than on a turbo. Steven – I was thinking about it on my long run. If you’re up to it I’d be game to give that session a go out in Busselton. Should even be able to do it all outdoors rather than on a turbo.

]]> By: Steven Lord http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/2009/09/04/thoughts-on-running-from-a-long-run/comment-page-1/#comment-563 Steven Lord Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:23:23 +0000 http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/?p=964#comment-563 Last year in Kona I heard Chris McCormack say he'd been working on his second half marathon speed. Out on a ride with Toby I asked what sort of training you could do to isolate that part of your run. Toby reckoned the following session which he did: 1 hour turbo - race effort 10k run 1 hour turbo - race effort 10k run 1 hour turbo - race effort 10k run Each run getting faster. Toby would average 40 mins for the 10ks making it a 5 hour session. I was flabbergasted but concluded that must be what made pros manage the times they do. The only way I could face that session if it was done as a group so there'd be peer pressure to complete it ! Last year in Kona I heard Chris McCormack say he’d been working on his second half marathon speed. Out on a ride with Toby I asked what sort of training you could do to isolate that part of your run. Toby reckoned the following session which he did:
1 hour turbo – race effort
10k run
1 hour turbo – race effort
10k run
1 hour turbo – race effort
10k run
Each run getting faster. Toby would average 40 mins for the 10ks making it a 5 hour session.
I was flabbergasted but concluded that must be what made pros manage the times they do. The only way I could face that session if it was done as a group so there’d be peer pressure to complete it !

]]> By: russ http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/2009/09/04/thoughts-on-running-from-a-long-run/comment-page-1/#comment-557 russ Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:11:15 +0000 http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/?p=964#comment-557 Ove, Thanks for the input, it's much appreciated. What you're saying makes a lot of sense. I think in the end it's not really so complex, the difficult bit is getting the miles in without causing injury. I'll take on board your comments about two long runs a week. Double run days have a lot more appeal to me anyway. Hopefully with more running and a bit more structure to some of those runs I can edge to the target of 3 hours at the end of an Ironman. Thanks Russ Ove,

Thanks for the input, it’s much appreciated. What you’re saying makes a lot of sense. I think in the end it’s not really so complex, the difficult bit is getting the miles in without causing injury.

I’ll take on board your comments about two long runs a week. Double run days have a lot more appeal to me anyway. Hopefully with more running and a bit more structure to some of those runs I can edge to the target of 3 hours at the end of an Ironman.

Thanks

Russ

]]> By: Ove Indergaard http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/2009/09/04/thoughts-on-running-from-a-long-run/comment-page-1/#comment-556 Ove Indergaard Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:27:42 +0000 http://www.trainstravels.co.uk/?p=964#comment-556 Hi, Great post, very interesting. I've not done a sub-3 marathon but I am a physio dealing with quite a few runners who do. They usually have a run volume of 50-70 miles per week. This is then mixed up with intervals, hill runs, tempo and long runs. I think you would get alot out of increasing your daily runs because alot of it is miles in the legs but if these are all tempo runs i.e. approx 75-80% of max you will run the risk of getting injuries. The same for your idea of two long runs in a week. Your idea of doing double run days is however a good one and would give you a similar effect to a second long run with less possibility of injury. Secondly adding hill repeats and interval reps will build more speed and strength in your legs which will aid you in your goal of going sub 3. Only my 2 pennies worth. Cheers Ove Indergaard Hi,

Great post, very interesting. I’ve not done a sub-3 marathon but I am a physio dealing with quite a few runners who do. They usually have a run volume of 50-70 miles per week. This is then mixed up with intervals, hill runs, tempo and long runs. I think you would get alot out of increasing your daily runs because alot of it is miles in the legs but if these are all tempo runs i.e. approx 75-80% of max you will run the risk of getting injuries. The same for your idea of two long runs in a week. Your idea of doing double run days is however a good one and would give you a similar effect to a second long run with less possibility of injury.

Secondly adding hill repeats and interval reps will build more speed and strength in your legs which will aid you in your goal of going sub 3.

Only my 2 pennies worth.

Cheers

Ove Indergaard

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